How We Increased Our Annual Income From $0 to $160K to $400K+
One of our subscribers asked us to write a post about how we increased our household income (HHI) from $160K to $400K+. This post is going to tell you how we did it in 5 years and in our early 30’s using conventional and unconventional ways.
And we are going to challenge ourselves to double it again for the next 5 years. Can you join us? Let’s all challenge ourselves. Doesn’t matter if your household income is $40k, 60k, 100k, 300k, 500k, 1M,… Let’s all challenge ourselves to double our income/household income in the next 5 years.
In our previous ‘About us’ post, we talked about how we increased our household income from $0 to $160K and this post here is going to be about how we increased our household income from $160K to $400K+.
Disclaimer: Note that even though our income is high, we spend mindfully as we want to achieve financial independence sooner rather than later. See our previous post on how we live on only 15% of our income.
How did we increase our annual income to$400K+ ?
Ok, let’s dig into it.
Well Ms99to1percent, Mr99to1percent and our consulting business all bring in 6 figures each for a total of $400K+ a year.
Her Story
In this ‘About us’ post, I detailed how I started as a broke immigrant living in a not so safe neighborhood surrounded by alcoholics, gang members, gamblers, prostitutes, drug dealers/users…to putting myself through school, getting an entry-level accounting job that paid $40,000 ($70,000 with overtime and bonuses).
At that time, after landing the job, I thought I had made it. I worked hard, did plenty of overtime, was even nominated the employee of the year out of 3,000 employees. I worked plenty of overtime, paid off my $40,000 students loans within a year, before even graduating.
During that time, come tax time, my colleagues used to ask me to prepare their tax returns for them which I did (has also turned into a side gig). Which means I got to see what everyone else was being paid 😊. And that’s when I realized that even though I was the most qualified person in the team, I was the least paid!
The reason why I was the least paid was because I did not negotiate the salary. I accepted the offer right away without any negotiation at all. This is probably the biggest career mistake of my life that cost me a lot of money over the years.
So how did I recover from this mistake?
I asked to move teams and in the hope of getting a nice raise, but my manager blocked me! I was too good, and she wanted to keep me in her team.
Instead she promoted me to team lead and gave me a 10% raise. That’s not what I was looking for but she agreed to pay for my CPA (Certified Professional Accountant or Certified Public Accountant in US).
This was a sweet deal as getting a CPA in Canada is kind of an expensive long process. But I knew a CPA was going to take me to next level, and open up doors for me. I worked during the day, and studied during the night.
And later on when I got a new manager, I was able to also impress her and she allowed and helped me get a transfer to another department. I negotiated my new salary and got a 15%, the maximum raise allowed as per ‘company policy’. Don’t you hate those?
Again, I was still the lowest paid among my new team, because of my original sin of not negotiating my first salary. And this really frustrated me.
To top it off, I had to put up with a bully who did her best to try to get me fired. But that’s another story for another time 😊.
I focused on finishing all my CPA courses and getting the experience I needed in order to get certified.
As soon as I became a CPA, my company offered me another promotion with the same meager 15% increase. I counter-offered with a 25% increase and they rejected, but this time instead of accepting the promotion as usual, I rejected it! It felt really good!
I started applying to at least 20 jobs a day using Indeed, Monster, Workopolis, LinkedIn, Glassdoor… And I only applied to high paying jobs in high paying companies.
In less than 2 months, I had 3 offers, and 2 pending offers. I pitted the offers against each other, and I was able to negotiate an even bigger salary with what is now my current employer. I have a feeling I even make more money than my manager 😊.
And I love the fact that there’s a huge potential for growth within the company, I haven’t regretted my decision ever since.
As I also mentioned above, me doing taxes for my colleagues and friends turned into a side gig. I don’t do any advertising for it, it’s by referral mainly as I don’t see myself doing taxes for 80/hrs a week.
Actually, for a slightly higher fee, I teach my clients how to prepare their own taxes, a win-win for everyone 😊. I also prepare taxes for free for low income family with a HHI of $30,000 or lower. They are mainly new-comers/immigrants or students.
Her Tips:
- Use Glassdoor, Indeed and Monster to find out the best paying jobs and best paying companies. Remember to also read the reviews of these companies, and figure out if you they are a good fit. I personally only look at 6 figure jobs and companies that I know pay at least 6 figures for the titles I’m interested in.
- Save in your favorites career sites of the best paying companies in your field and check the sites often. Check them every day if you are actively seeking for a new job or once every week or 2 weeks if you are not actively looking.
- Find the best paying certification in your industry and go for it (ie: CPA, PMP, …) and get your employer to pay for it.
- Set up and beef up your LinkedIn page. Don’t forget to also invite as many recruiters in your industry as possible. This will also help you reach at least 500 connections which makes you look good and connected.
- Ask for the job description and salary range when recruiters contact you from LinkedIn or other places: By also asking for a job description, and not just the salary range, it won’t make you look unprofessional or rude. Don’t listen to people who tell you to wait till the interview process is over before you talk about money. I learned my lesson after going through many interviews with a company, and then at the end of the process realizing the company paid even less than what I was making at the time. That was a lot time and vacation days wasted for nothing.
- List your accomplishments on your resume and quantify them if you can. Eg: Saved the company $10M doing XYZ. Or I increased sales by 60% from $5M to $8M, … You don’t need to follow the 1 or 2-page resume rule especially if you are in a highly competitive industry such as business, finance, … I have a 4-page resume, and I have no problem landing an interview/job.
- Downlaod our free resume samples – You get to see the exact resumes we use that bring in the $400K+
- When first reading the job description, read only the first few paragraphs. If you read the whole job description, you might get intimidated and end up not applying. Read the full job description once you have scored the interview.
- If you have a partner, make sure you help, motivate and support each other 100%.
- Check your company’s internal career site as often as you can and always apply for the positions that you are interested in even if you know you won’t get the job. But by at least applying, your boss, HR, and company get to know that you are interested in moving up.
- Always negotiate your salary, even if you are satisfied with the initial offer. Most employers don’t mind and expect it and even respect it. Not negotiating, can make the employer think that you are desperate; or you don’t have any negotiation skills; or not qualified enough. I have noticed that the higher you are paid, the more respect your boss and colleagues give you!!!
- Don’t allow yourself to get lowballed by a company. Instead highball them (did I just invent a new word?). A lot of “experts” will tell you to never name the salary you are looking for first, to let the employer name the salary they are offering first. I say do the opposite. Tell them the salary you are looking for first, and high ball them, that way they won’t dare lowballing you. Note that the highballing idea is easier to implement when you are not in a desperate situation: You already have a job, you have multiple offers and/or you have a big enough emergency fund. Thus, if you can, avoid being in desperate situations. For example, don’t quit before you have another job lined up.
- Train well your (potential) replacement(s). Sometimes, when you are good or should I say too good, your boss might not let you go for that promotion, they might want to keep you for themselves. The solution is to train well your (potential) replacement(s). Some people will tell you to do the opposite: Don’t hire someone better than you, don’t show everything you know, don’t train well…blah, blah, blah. Don’t listen to those people, take the risk, and hire and train your (potential) replacement(s) very well. This will help you get that promotion faster and earn a good reference from your manager.
- Read the book Lean In. This book is geared towards women and how to assert ourselves. But I think men can benefit from reading the book too.
- Read the book The First 90 Days. This book will help you WOW your boss the first day, week, month, quarter, …
- Check out other resources that we recommend that have helped us get where we are.
His Story
You can read here on how I also started as a broke immigrant living with 5 other guys in a 2-bedroom apartment, going to college during the day, and flipping burgers, serving coffee and valet parking during the night in order to put myself through college; and how I landed a $60K programming job and was later bumped to senior making $90K and then moved to Canada where I met the love of my life Ms99to1percent.
Making $90K, I thought had really made it. I even kept getting raises every year, and before I knew it I was making 6 figures. I thought I was overpaid and I never bothered asking for anything such as more promotions and bigger raises. I was content with them giving me whatever they wanted to give me.
But Ms99to1percent told me to always ask so I could receive (more). But I didn’t really listen to her until one day I saw that one of the new employees that I was going to be managing had asked for a ridiculously high salary (even higher than mine) and HR granted it to him!
After venting to wifey and hearing her say I told you sooooo 😊, I started looking for options. I started asking for more promotions, more direct reports, and higher raises. Ms99to1percent and another ex-colleague of mine also convinced me to venture out and become a contractor.
I listened to them and quit and became a contractor, and was able to move from making $100K+ to $200K+ and sometimes $300K+/year.
Becoming a contractor was hard at the beginning because of additional expenses and going 3 months without getting paid due to contract terms and delays. But thanks to $100K emergency fund Ms99to1percent set up in her 20’s, we were able to manage.
His Tips:
- Make yourself indispensable, produce results, and make genuine long-lasting connections
- Become a contractor if you can
- Work hard, and take advantage of paid overtime when available. The good thing about being a contractor is that you always get paid for every hour you work.
- Never assume you are overpaid
- Always try to further your knowledge. Take advantage of free or cheap online courses. You can find them at Coursera or Udemy. Right now, I’m taking an Artificial Intelligence course through Coursera
- Like Ms99to1percent mentioned above, you should name the salary you want first, and highball them. And salary/Rate should be discussed during the first conversation. Learn how to negotiate your salary like a pro here.
- Always keep your resume and LinkedIn page up to date. Create a LinkedIn page if you don’t have one already and invite a bunch of recruiters in your industry.
- Downlaod our free resume samples – You get to see the exact resumes we use that bring in the $400K+
- Conduct your own Personal Exit Interviews. Just like HR, I conduct my own exit interviews 😊. Every time someone I know in the company quits, I always talk to them and ask them where they are going, and get any other information they are willing to share. Note that I call or talk to them in person (not email, IM, text…). I noticed that people are willing to share more when it’s over the phone or in person, they don’t want to leave any trail.
- Read the book The First 90 Days. This book will help you WOW your boss the first day, week, month, quarter, …
- Read the book Lean In. This book is geared towards women and how to assert ourselves. But I think us men can benefit from reading the book too.
- Check out other resources that we recommend that have helped us get where we are.
The business
We have opened a consulting business in a very nice, small but potentially lucrative niche. We just found a way to recruit clients easier, but now we have to figure out an easier way to recruit the specialized, talented employees that we need in order to service the clients.
This business has the potential to make us millions a year. Here’s to hoping!
The one advice we can give you here is that it’s necessary to have multiple streams of revenue. You don’t want to put all your eggs in one basket.
Find your passion and see if you can turn it into a side gig. Whether it’s setting up a consulting business, tax preparing, or blogging, find what you are good at and just do it 🙂
One of our favorite blogs ESI (Earn, Save, Invest) also emphasizes how important Earning is in order to achieve financial independence faster, and we agree with him wholeheartedly.
But let’s reiterate that even though our income is high, we spend mindfully as we want to achieve financial independence sooner rather than later. See our previous post on how we live on only 15% of our income.
The ‘Double your income in 5 Years’ Challenge
We are going to challenge ourselves to double our household income again for the next 5 years. Can you join us? Let’s all challenge ourselves.
Doesn’t matter if your income is $40k, 60k, 100k, 300k, 500k, 1M, … Let’s all challenge ourselves to double it in the next 5 years.
We have so many tips to give you, we could write a book 😊. But for now, we will stop here as it’s already 2400+ words. We will continue to dish out advice in our future posts, subscribe to make sure you get notified when we publish new posts.
What about you guys? Care to share what has helped you in your career? Do you have any side gigs? What keeps you motivated? Are you going to join the “Double Your Income in 5 Years” challenge?
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- How we live on 15% of our income
- Joining the Million Dollar Club/Challenge and So Can You
- How To Pay Off A Mortgage In 5 Years
- Our Biggest Money Fight and 9 Lessons Learned
- Our 6 Financial Mistakes and 15 Lessons Learned
- How I Paid Off My $40,000 Student Loans Before Graduating
- The resumes that bring in $400,000+/year (Samples Provided)
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Great tips here Ms. 99to1, I recently did a job hop for the same exact position in a better location. I changed companies and got a 15% raise just by having the possibility of negotiating.
I think that lateral moves inside a company (or even promotions) offer very little incentive compared to the competition.
Hi XYZ,
Switching companies is definitely the quickest way to increase a salary. Congratulations on your new job & salary increase !
Well this is refreshing! Your stories are ruly inspiring and a reminder that we need to think bigger.
I am starting to search for another job as my contract job of three years comes to an end. Rather than expand, I’ve been contracting and looking at non profit organizations. Rewarding work for low pay is something I can do when I’m retired and bored. Thanks for the nudge.
Hi Darren,
Yes, rewarding but low paying jobs can be done during retirement or on the side. I just checked out your blog and I see that you have SAP experience. That’s a skill that’s highly in demand, that you can leverage to score a 6 figure job. What other programming languages do you know?
I wish I knew the development side of SAP because, yes, it is in high demand. Recruiters have been reaching out to me to teach SAP but since it’s such a vast platform, I do not have the expertise in the areas they’re looking for. I can leverage my military experience and SAP to go into a decent paying job and that’s what I will probably do. 🙂 Thanks for visiting my site, too!
Yes, please do. Let us know how it goes. Rooting for you!!!
Hi Darren. Find a way to get into the development side, especially something like data conversion which mixes functional and technical, and which everyone hates to do (and thus, it’s a great niche). Once I built sufficient technical skills I was able to leave my salaried job with a consultancy and (eventually) more than 5x my take-home pay plus travel expenses paid (disposal income goes up even more!). If you are disciplined and avoid lifestyle/spending creep, then it’s just a matter of a few years until you can pretty much do whatever you want.
If you have access to an SAP sandbox or dev system, you can find a way to teach yourself how to do this using whitepapers, cookbooks, and possibly even training materials that have found their way online. Look for people willing to teach you (or just look at their design docs and programs).
Then you must force yourself to take gigs that push your comfort zone so you get to put it to work and build your reputation.
It might be worth looking at working for a consultancy for a couple of years and treat it as an investment in a training experience. Really fight for the role you want if you go this way. But don’t linger any longer than necessary unless you like that corporate ladder.
Very sound advice. Thanks.
Your story is truly inspiring. You have come a long way in a short period of time. Thanks for sharing the career advice. Always try to negotiate a higher starting salary. There is nothing to lose.
Hi Dave,
We are glad you found our stories inspiring. And we’re glad you liked our career tips. We have plenty of posts full of tips coming up, stay tuned.
Here’s a very encouraging email we received from one of our subscribers . He has authorized us to share it with you guys:
“Hi Ms/Mr 99to1percent,
I’m emailing you to say that I am really enjoying your new blog. I am already trying to apply some of the information to my own career (just coming up on my 1 year work anniversary) . I too fell into accepting the initial offer and I should probably be on 10/15% more than I am, but at the time I felt it was a reasonable salary and more than any of my classmates would be starting out on.
I would really love if in future you could go into more detail on developing a career plan and path to follow. It’s something I am constantly working on but I am in a weird niche, so it’s tough to find examples of career paths I could take. Once again, keep up the good work on the blog, I am really like the writing style, it’s pleasant to read.”
Dear reader,
As you requested, we will make sure to write a little bit more on developing a career plan and path. Stay tuned.
What an awesome story! Great job negotiating salaries, that is something I still struggle with. I look forward to hearing more about your career and personal finance journey!
Yes, this is something a lot of people, especially us women, struggle with. We feel greedy, and ashamed when asking for more money. Reading the book ‘Lean In’ helped me a lot.
WOW great inspirational post Mr and Ms99to1percent, I too fell into the trap you mentioned and are also taking steps that you mentioned, i.e., keeping LinkedIn updated, upping my industry certs, and also potentially looking for contracting gigs. I did manage to get a side gig with a small CPA firm and will try to grow that hopefully in 5 years and double my income as your challenge suggests, no reason not to aspire for it. Keep up the awesome, inspiring posts and looking forward to more of them. Cheers 🙂
Hi Chester,
Thanks for visiting our blog again and glad you liked this post too. It’s good to hear you have found some of tips helpful.
It’s also inspiring to see how you are tackling your debt. Even though you slowed down in August, so far you have paid off ~$4K from when you started your debt free journey 6 months ago. Keep up the good work!
Btw, I tried to leave a comment on your blog, and the CAPTCHA wouldn’t work.
Strong work, you two! It’s remarkable what opportunities exist for a couple of hardworking, enterprising people. Keep up the great work and you’ll meet and exceed your monetary goals in short order.
Cheers!
-PoF
Hi POF,
Thank you very much for your kind and encouraging words. This blog will def. help us stay on track and accountable.
Excellent tips. I’m in the process of increasing my income. I got a raise in my current position, but they balked at the idea of negotiating my salary. At that moment I know that it was time to look for other jobs. I’ve been applying to about 5 jobs per week, but I will ramp it now. I have $62,000 worth of debt student loan debt that I want to eliminate. The sooner that happens, the better.
Hi Jason,
Yes, you can do it. Shoot for 25%, 50%, even 100% increase. Let us know how it goes. Rooting for you!!!
A very good article. I’ve recently realized how often we are held back by our “can’t” beliefs and it’s great to read about people who have broken those internal barriers (and show others that it can be done). Like you guys, I’m an immigrant (to the United States). Looking forward to more articles esp. around career development.
Yes, it’s a mental thing. Reason why I suggested not fully reading the job requirement when applying to a job because it can be very intimidating. Only read it fully once they have called you for a job interview 🙂
Will keep more articles on career development coming, thanks for the suggesting. Btw, good to see another immigrant in the house….:-)
Thanks to a lot of financial blogs like yours including ESI money, I really started paying attention to my career management. I have a question and would appreciate everyone’s input.
Today I was told I’m getting a promotion (retroactively in effect from 1 Oct). I have received a 10% raise (previous merit + ~6.5% title raise). I’m wondering if I should negotiate this. I did look on Glassdoor and the offer seems to is on the lower side (however I do know this is can really vary but it should not so much) – almost lower by 16% of the average (for the new title) or so if my math is right!
When my manager was telling me about this today I didn’t think it was the correct place to talk about the financial aspect. Note that we use Workday for the compensation/financial/HR software and I assume I will just an update in title/compensation there directly (no email or anything else) in a few days. I want to add that getting a promotion for me is a big deal considering how political things have been here. Also note that I’m actively looking for new jobs (and also hoping to switch to a different role so it has been challenging).
Any thoughts and suggestions on how I can tactfully negotiate? Has anyone reached out to HR directly or spoken to their manager about such a thing? I want to make sure my manager is part of the discussion and I don’t like the idea of going to HR directly. Thanks!
Hello,
First and foremost, congratulations for getting a promotion!!! That’s a big accomplishment worth a celebration.
For the raise, yes negotiate, negotiate and negotiate! There’s no other option :-).
Since you want as much input as you can, we have decided to turn our answer into a full blown post to be published this coming Monday first thing in morning (around 1am :-). Make sure you check back.
Btw, what name or nickname should we go with?
Thanks Ms 99to1percent both for the wishes and for the post which will contain your response! I’m looking forward to it and I’m sure it’ll help so many others as well. If it puts anything in perspective I’m being promoted from Software Engineer to Senior Software Engineer.
You can just call me L, haha :). I’m sure you must have guessed my name through my email, but I just prefer the L for now:).
Hi L,
The article is now published:
https://99to1percent.com/negotiate-salary-like-pro/
Sorry, the article was written and set to publish before we knew your current and new title but the advice still applies. We also got ESI Money and other personal finance bloggers to chime in. You will enjoy the article for sure.
Just added you guys to my feedly account. Found you through PoF.
After reading a few of your posts, I see we have at least three things in common:
(1) A extreme focus on the income side of the equation. We too have grown our income aggressively and will come close to $400K this year.
(2) A goal to slay the mortgage in a fraction of the 30 year term.
(3) 3o years old.
You guys are about $1M ahead of us in USD and live a much more frugal life.
Looking forward to continue reading!
Dom
Yes, it seems we do have a looooooooot in common
4) Rough beginnings,
5) Stretch but achievable networth targets.
And much more. Thanks for following our blog, will do the same.
although I’m satisfied with my salary, I think I’m underpaid mostly because I didn’t negotiate my salary when I got hired.
however, work is paying for my master’s degree, and I take every free benefit from them I can get to grow myself professionally.
thanks for this post!
Hi Joe, yes, if they are not paying you fairly, the least they can do is to at least pay for master’s degree.
If they don’t pay you fairly even after getting your masters, make sure you jump ships!
This is something I hope to accomplish someday, actually negotiate a higher starting salary or the big raise. I made the mistake of never really asking for a raise in my last job because the economy was always bad and just took the one time 7% raise they offered me after working for my boss for 6 years (only got the raise because the new hire was making more than I was).
Talk about being passive, always taking on more work without complaint. So when I was offered a management promotion that would involve working across two different department with only a 6% raised (I did counter this offer, just didn’t sense that my boss was going to offer me more, she always had an excuse), I actually declined the promotion and accepted a layoff package instead. My boss could not understand how I could walk away from my job for such a small severance package. I guess I somehow gave her the impression that I needed my job to survive because I never complained or ask for much.
So now I’ve been a SHM for the last year to my 3 yr old and wasn’t sure if I’ll ever go back to work. I do miss the challenge and hope to go back once she’s in school, but maybe I can work on getting contract work in the meantime and see if that would fit my lifestyle better. I always assumed it was a 9-5 or nothing at all, but your blog and others have made me realize that there is something in between for me.
Hi Ms Khan,
Thanks for sharing your story. Some employers are really clueless and don’t know how to appreciate their employees! Well, her loss! Yes, do try to look into contract or freelance work. It pays good (make sure you negotiate the rate), you get paid for every minute you work, and there’s less politics, useless meetings, and you won’t have to deal with target settings, monitoring, appraisals, professional development,…
Best of luck, keep us posted, and register, we have more career advice coming up.
Great post! I totally agree with what you are saying. In this environment. (especially in large metropolitan areas) companies will try to lowball you on salary. It’s tough, because you tell yourself you’d really like a chance to do the job, but it’s best to stick to your principals. Get what you want, or you will ultimately be unhappy.
it’s so true. We shouldn’t allow our employers/jobs to make sure unhappy and miserable. We should go get what’s ours.
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What a great adventure and what a struggle it was for both of you! Thanks for sharing this amazing story, it’s really uplifting to see that it’s still possible to get from close to nowhere to such an amazing place.
And I really like that you don’t quit and you have plans for the future, great job!
Thanks Alex. Yes, quitting was not an option 🙂
Wow, this is a very inspiring story and I love the fact that you gave so many details! I am about to see if we have the book you recommended The First 90 Days in my library system.
Thanks, glad you loved it! Yes, grab the book, you can thank me later, hahahaha
This article was really incredible and I like how you show it was a series of good choices over time rather than dumb luck. Makes it seem more actionable. I need to read The First 90 Days as well. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Lisa. Glad you enjoyed the article.
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